1-	Common sense tells me you've got to look after your play-pen & interests- 
	this means environmentally we've got to take care of the rocks and trees and 
	publicly we've got to keep the climbing spots open.  

	Let me explain this further diagramatically >>>>>>>>>

	If the trees are not chained 
		>> trees are ring-barked 
		>> tree dead 
		>> possible dead person(s) 
		>> no more anchors 
		>>> no more climbs 
		>>> bad publicity 
		>>> closing of climbing areas 
		>>> no more climbing   
		..........all sounds pretty grim, messy & bloody ............ 

2-	I do NOT comprehend how putting a chain on a tree changes the nature of a route.
	Whether it has a chain on it or not, is irrelevant, if there is a half decent 
	tree at the top of a climb (and presumably all the trees with chains are half 
	decent), climbers will use it to anchor off.

3-	More people climbing at Frog and more people climbing safety at Frog! 
	..... god forbid .... I think we should let all of the suckers fall off 
	the side of frog ....  further, get rid of camming devices and any other fandango 
	improved safety devices & the like .... bring back the hemp ropes and dunlops 
	.......far too many sophisticated and safe climbers, climbing these 
	days......................that's the most ridiculous thing i've heard of- if some 
	bozo doesn't want to use a chain anchor, well that's his/her business 
	..........don't use the anchor- base jump off ......simple as that !

CHEERS,

AK